I to have been hunting the last 2 years with a patched round ball in a tc rengade. I do believe that larger calibers such as 5462 are more suited to larger game, such as elk or moose. But i did find wheel weight balls were more particular as to patch. I ordered thes balls for my pedersoli 1816 musket also purchased here. Killing power of patched round ball prb the high road. I grew up shooting whitetails with a 50 cal round ball over about 60gr of powder. Ive used balls cast from wheel weights and havent found a great deal of difference in accuracy between them and pure lead balls. Constant thickness, weave, diameter, weight and thread count help eliminate these variables from your shooting. I have been fortunate enough to have taken a deer with a rifle, compound bow, longbow, shotgun, single action pistol and now a traditi. The patch round ball challenge long range hunting forum. Several side hammer round ball guns are available in.
Muzzleloader wads, rifle wads, cap and ball pistol wads. I have bagged three whitetails so far with patched round balls and see no reason change. I have tried using goex ffg and fffg but saw no difference in group size between the two. This video by britishmuzzleloaders shows that cartridges with patched round ball existed but not even he can find much info on it for the baker rifle, and using unpatched paper cartridges in a rifle wasnt a whole lot more accurate than the same cartridge being fired out of a smoothbore. I have been hunting with muzzleloaders for four decades and can tell you from experience that patched round balls can and will kill quickly and efficiently. The other nice thing is that it doesnt care which side comes out first as it flies through the air. Jake and i discuss ball diameter, patch thickness and patch lube. Roger federer of switzerland returns the ball to david ferrer of spain during their quarter final match of the monte carlo tennis open tournament in monaco, friday, april 20, 2007.
I read in few places on the internet it is absolutely safe to shoot a patched round ball using a 12ga shotgun providing the bore is a cylinder not choked and the ball fits. I shot my first traditional muzzleloader deer tonight and have now harvested a deer with almost every type of weapon. The elk in the picture was shot with a 50 cal round ball. It is basically a giant, airfilled rubber ball approximately 2 feet in diameter. A stability ball is one of the most versatile pieces of exercise equipment. The best five shoot 100 yards groups that i am able to produce are 4. Bullets are not an option, since the rifling is slow twist and very deep old sharon barrel. Cardinals pick lb isaiah simmons phoenix, az the cardinals had the eighth pick in the first round of the 2020 nfl draft. Patched round ball gun and game the friendliest gun.
Lubricants for patched round balls track of the wolf. More modern bullets are deffently more effective, but the round ball still works. I know several hunters that do it, but theyre good hunters with great stalking skills and are. Will the old patch and ball in the 50 work for moose. When they are hunting and want to change from ball to shot or the other way around they can quickly pull the top wad with a screw and dump out whichever, the ball will roll out. That ball isnt made for big game all the typical brain washed fubar where some think you need plastic, ss, scoped and high priced pretty shaped bullets in. In trying to imagine what the changes mean, i wondered if it might be possible to do away with the patch altogether and shoot just a. Lubricants for patched round balls lubricants for patched round balls lubricants for patched round balls track of the wolf view cart checkout wish list login. Please note that what patch thickness you use will also play a part in what ball size to use. The number of grooves was also greater than the riflings for conical bullets. Howard county nonprofits can apply for grants columbia, md the second round of applications through hocorespond will be accepted until friday.
Now im not sure if the patch gets spun off the ball or if patch and ball just skims the rifling but either way a round ball wont shoot for squat out of a fast twist barrel unless you cut the powder down to an absolute minimum which makes it impractical for most purposes. My question is, which is the best size to use considering the lubed patch. I use pillow ticking and cut at the muzzle on my rifles. It was a very impressive patched round ball rifle, with an extremely slow 1in104 inches rate of rifling twist and it shot very well with heavy powder charges.
The gunsmithes of old times knew what the differences were. Any experience with shooting elk with a 50 caliber patched round ball. Experimenting with patches and lubes is one of the fun things about round ball shooting for me. These prelubricated shooting patches are 100% cotton, come in uniform thickness of. A round ball doesnt touch the rifling itself, the patch does. The patched round ball challenge i stood by my plan and went full.
In all of these guns, i use one load for everything. My jackrabbit load is now 30 grains of alliant mz over a thin patched round ball seems good out to 5060 yards. The squirrel tumbled off the limb to the woodlot floor. Shooters learned long ago that the same properties which existed in pillow ticking were conducive to making excellent round ball patches. Also, traditional muzzleloader only shooting orgnizations generally require the use of patched round ball only during official muzzleloading target competition. I am a 75100 max range shooter that is the speed limit i believe a blackpowder muzzleloader puts on the hunter. A kit with all the high quality components needed to fire 10 traditional round balls with your favorite. Out of a quality bore, a properly loaded patched round ball can prove deadly accurate at the ranges it was truly intended for and that is 25 to 50 yards. That ball isnt made for big game all the typical brain washed fubar where some think you need plastic, ss, scoped and high priced pretty shaped bullets in order to down game.
Poking a long hole in any animal smaller than a fullgrown holstein will put it on the ground. Government went so far as to create a set of specifications which had to be adhered to by vendors who manufactured this material for the military these patches match those mil specs. The fit is so tight, it nearly takes two hands to ram the ball home with a clean or nearly clean bore, just the way that has always given me the best accuracy with a round ball. Id think that if the patched round ball in those calibers was ineffective they would have gone to guns with larger bores. Thompson center lubricated round ball shooting patches. Precision made from special tightly woven cotton, to insure uniformity. The heaviest load i stuffed in was 175grains of goex ffg black powder, behind a patched 344grain. How in the world did some of our countrys patriots, in the late 1700s and early 1800s, make reliable head and chest shots on british officers at 200 to 300 yards using patched ball rifles, thus, cutting the snakes head off, as it were. For elk i use a modified 438 grain civil war conical with a deep hollow base, she is very accurate in my long gun out to 150yrds. Round ball ballistics calculations for muzzleloaders the nice thing about a round ball is that it doesnt care which way you put it in the barrel. I fold the excess of the square patch over the started ball and. Includes 1200 grains of extra fine black powder, 10 flawless. The patched round ball challenge hunt page 2 hunt talk.
I am going to do some experimenting, varying my round ball patch combination from. My thinking is that the more important role of the patch is to keep the ball seated on the powder. Precision shooting patches for round ball precision shooting patches. By two oclock that afternoon, id fired the rifle five more times, all but one of them resulting in another squirrel for my pack and an everwidening grin upon my face. Round ball accuracy at 50 yards in a modern inline. At the muzzle of the 30inch barrel, the rifle and load gave a muzzle velocity of 1,700 f. It was by far the most accurate load in that gun, and while labeled light by a lot of guys, it killed with alacrity. In fact, the use of a ball starter with a patched round ball seems to be more of a modern concept than anything else. I am a 75100 max range shooter that is the speed limit i. Hi, i am a new black powder shooter and have recently acquired a. It worked for hundreds of years, and still hasnt stopped. Because of its design, a stability ball is also prone to having holes poked in it, which will cause it to deflate and render it useless.
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